Back in 2014 the Intel Processor Diagnostic Tool (IPDT) was not working for 2011-v3 CPUs but now in 2015 they released an update on 20th January and maybe also earlier this year. However i just want to let you know.
When i started in September 2014 with my 2011-v3 RIG i did test a lot and sometimes you’d like to know if you already burned or damaged something on your chip due to overclocking. A Diagnostic Tool, made by the same people who produce our chips, is the best choice if you want to check your CPU for injuries.
So many BIOS Versions have been released by ASUS for the x99 Delux series. What you might experience with 1203 and 1305 is a slight increase of “base voltage” on the Vcore.
When i keep using my old offset values (0.24 V) for the Vcore i do get 1.3 V on that i7-5930K. Pre 1204/1305 i did get 1.28 V. Thats an increase of 0.2 V just by updating the BIOS.
CPU seems to respond better to what you throw at it
What i did also notice is that the CPU does respond, let’s say, more accurately to the frequencies and voltage you put through. It feels more straight.
In the past i could clock the CPU to 4.6 GHz @ 1.3 V and were able to boot and use Windows. That’s no longer possible. I would have to add quite a lot more voltage ontop of it to get it going at these settings.
What did the board achive so far with 1305?
Currently (02. feb. 2015) i am at
I just started to play with it and will slightly decrease the Vcore. I am still using offset values. Go Offset!
Old sad story – prime95
After all the trouble and questions we had regarding prime95 and Hasswell-E. I decided to run prime95 tests with the Kraken x60 at “silent” and at “custom” mode. I noticed that Core 0 is behaving quite unimpressed – because the Worker 0 in prime95 stopped stressing the Core for unknown reason. Kraken x60 is a ready-to-use watercooling solution for noobs and lazy people. However as you can see in the bottom box in Kraken Cam, the temperature peaked at almost 90 °C (86 °C) with “silent” configuration.
So i started the prime95 test again due to unknown abstinence of Core 0 and the temperature peaked at 78 – 81 °C. Fans are NOT at 65%, Kraken CAM is fooling us here.
LED of your Kraken Heatsink lit up 24/7?
If you want your LED flavoured Kraken/Watercooling Heatsink to not glow when the system is powered off, change the ErP Setting in the BIOS to “S4 + S5”.
I still use Kraken x60 standard Fans. I do want to change those since weeks, or months but never completed this task yet. Maybe you can recommend some.
One good thing i have to mention is, that i had no problems yet to wake the system from standby-mode nor did i have any problems that occured with BIOS 0904. BUT I went to do the shopping and put my system or tried to put my system into standby-mode, but it never did. This is a strange behaviour.
I was talking with a guy “Wei Liu” about these issues and he told me that increasing VTT voltage may help here. He just heard of it or read it somewhere. So i decided to increase voltages. What i didn’t mention yet is, that with BIOS 1004 i tested only with stock-settings the first days. Now when i will run the system oc’ed i’m going to apply the tips. Results coming soon.
Asus Deluxe BIOS 1004 released in the end of October
I’m currently testing the Asus Deluxe BIOS 1004 they obviously released already in october. I didn’t notice that. However the first 3 tests were successful. Which means the standbymode, that i mentioned in a previous post with BIOS 0904 (and earlier), did work properly with 1004 (… to their Downloadpage) so far. But the last test is pending. The standby-problem tend to occur, when the system is cold, what indeed is currently not the fact. Even a 10 minuten power-break doesn’t simulate a cold system correctly. I have to wait, then when i wake up the next time to proceed with it.
Few words about the previous BIOS 0904
By time passing by, i experienced some other problems with the previous BIOS 0904. Once it happend that the system forgot about the Boot-Settings. Another strange situation came up, when the system started on its own after a clean shutdown.
I will try observ this too for sure on the new BIOS 1004. Or lets say, you can’t ignore these mal-behaviours since your perception can’t elude these.
Today, after a couple of weeks of abstinence, when playing World of Tanks, which is now at version 9.3, i do notice an enhancement with GTX 770 and World of Tanks but i can’t really tell why. Few days ago, NVIDIA released a new Driver Package especially for the new GTX 9 series. In World of Tanks 9.2 i could not notice any enhancements with this new driver. Today with World of Tanks 9.3 i noticed a great frame per second increase. Now you could say, the improvements have been made in World of Tanks 9.3.
Load – GTX 770 was not running at its full potential
Unlike in previous versions and drivers, my GPU now does hit the 100% load mark, which was not the case in the past and which was the actual problem. The GPU couldn’t perform to its limits, leaving the game running at 30-50 frame per second (FPS). EVGA has its own overclocking and monitoring tools like Precision X and OC Scanner, google for it or visit their website. To let you guys know what i mean here a screenshot: In the top left corner you can now see almost 80 (78) FPS at high resolution 1920 x 1080 and highest settings and 100% render level, which was between 30 and 50 before 9.3.
Framerate increased, what an improvement! But?
However i still do notice that the graphics cards load is bouncing sometimes. You could say this hapens because the area where the camera is pointing to requires less performance to get rendered. That would be true if the FPS is stable and take a guess – it’s not.
Who needs more than 30 or even 60 FPS at all?
80 FPS is a good rate i can live with for now. The main purpose of these is to make video capturing more comfortable and less eye bleeding when you watch the results. Recording today easily results in a 20-30 FPS drop, if you have no extra performance. If you run 2 graphics cards and limits the FPS to 60 you would’ve had an incredible amount of performance left for recording and other stuff. Now when i limit the FPS to 60, i have only the performance left that encloses or fills the gap between 60 FPS and 80 FPS.
GTX 770 and World of Tanks, save to get a 770 now?
The GTX 770 is not the best card on the market but its still a good one. With a bit of tweaking you can get her close to a GTX 780 or even a GTX 770 TI at their base settings and clocks.
If you plan to buy a GTX 770, i would say that its save now, when it comes to World of Tanks performance, but i can’t recommend it. The new line of NVIDIAs GTX 9 series made a big step forward in terms of power consumption AND performance. The GTX 770 will perform fine and sexy but you should be aware of that she delivers a higher electricity bill.
Two videos with pre World of Tanks 9.3 and pre NVIDIA 344 performance:
History settings (i will skip experiments that weren’t tested in longterm view, for example playing with Vcore for the CPU or when i switched back to basic settings when trying to figure things out/ bluescreens) from oldest -> to newest Setting(s):
CPU i7-5930K (including Turbo)in GHz:
Corsair LPX DDR4 RAM in MHz:
Asus x99 Deluxe Baseclock in MHz:
3,7 @ base values, unknown voltage (release BIOS 0505)
2166 @ base values, unknown voltage (release BIOS 0505)
2800 @ 1.2 V (BIOS 0701 + 0801, XMP values started to work with 0801, 0701 was still unstable)
127,5 (BIOS 0801)
4,25 @ 1,25 V (BIOS 0801) – current
3000 @ 1.35 V (BIOS 0801) – current
125 (BIOS 0801) – current
4,375 @ 1,265 V (BIOS 0801)
3000 @ 1.35 V (BIOS 0801)
125 (BIOS 0801)
4,425 + 4,5 @ 1,276 V (BIOS 0904)
3088 @ 1.35 V
128,7 (BIOS 0904)
These current settings values (antepenultimate row) are valid until 26. September 2014 – for further information please read this post (most recent at this moment) or this one. The penultimate row in the table are values tested after publishing this post. Final or most recent settings you can find in the most recent link above. Some values were tested on different BIOS versions, some were stable some were not. The table doesn’t show all these combinations. In all cases you can say, that the newer setting also did run at BIOS version 1 behind. For example 4.5 GHz was also tested on 0801.
The i7-5930K benchmark
Update 28. September 2014: Unfortunately i didn't write down the PW for SiSoftware Ranker. The links now point to the new account.
With a baseclock slightly decreased from 127.5 to 125 MHz and RAM voltage, now again, at 1.35 V – but this time with 3000 MHz clockspeed – i hope to get closer to a smooth running System. Check it out directly: SiSoftware Sandra Ranking Page of tatoismus.net >>
After these little changes were made, all tests did pass with no further problems. The screenshots show the rank from 15. Sept. to 16. Sept 2014. Ranked #123. (Just 8 hours later im ranked #326 🙂 they’re all cheating)
Cooling the i7-5930K
Additionally i installed a 120mm fan in the rear of the case just to get the warm air a little bit faster out. When i was facing 90 °C and more in the past at full load with the 127.5 baseclock setup, i now still reach 90 °C and more but it takes a tiny bit longer to get there 😉
Just to make sure: temperature was never the issue, i was always monitoring temps when i did any sort/kind of benchmarks. During benchmarks the CPU cores sure get to their limits but never on a timeperiod long enough cause any heatdamage or impact results or cause bluescreens. Well, i talk about SiSoftware Sandra. — Armed with prime95, things become different.
Few words about Sandra SiSoftware. I hate it. Or lets say it was frustrating me in the beginning. Its okay for a wide range of tests, but i will never use it again i think, untill my computer produces another bluescreen.
I can haz user account?
You have to run it as admin. I mean you have to login as admin. “Run as Admin” isn’t enough. And then you can/are able connect to “Local Computer”. Don’t ask how you can upload results to their Ranking-Website using a specific username. I managed it but it hurts explaining it. In the end it is simple but i expect things do work different. You don’t register or create an account in a way you would expect. You simple put a name and email address and password in the fields and fires return key until a picked account name is being accepted.Not talking about the bad named and bad placed module “Top Results”. Who expects that you enter your account information in here? And why locate it in Benchmarks? And you should really not use their FAQ or you will find yourself smashing your head on the desk.
Recognize my RAM correctly pls
By the way: SiSoftware Sandra doesn’t know that my RAM is running at 3000 MHz. It always says for whatever reason “2133 MHz”. You have to look at DRAM Frequency and multiply it by 2 “DDR = Double Data Rate”. Seems that Sandra is only reading some vendor model strings and thats it.
Today it happened, i went to my main source for parts to get me my new system. You may wonder but it was not my intention to buy only Corsair stuff. It just happened. The next generation RAM DDR4 and one of the newest Intel Haswell-E CPU i7-5930K LGA2011-v3 on an Asus x99 motherboard. It will blow me away. In the end of the post i will make first steps towards overclocking. For the next few weeks i will continue doing so and write new posts here and there.
Assembling the components was – come on, it’s a ritual – awesome. I sat in the middle of my living room surrounded by all the blinky, shiny, super cool parts and started to make my way through the components.
I never have used water-cooling. I’m an old guy 😉 and today this will be the premiere of water-cooling – so excited. This first thing i came across was the fact, that the Asus x99 Deluxe (obviously any x99 / 2011-v3 Board) has an already installed backplate for cooling systems. It took a quite amount of time to realize that i do NOT have to use the by Kraken x60 equipped backplate to mount that water-cooler on that CPU. So you just assamble the cooler with the retention ring and spit some thermal paste on the i7-5930K to finally tighten it down. This was quite easy but it took some time to get it. The manual doesn’t tell you alot by words but by graphics. The radiator itself has been placed into the top of the case (while the mainboard was already installed).
Installing PSU, HDD/SSD/Optical did not require special handling. It’s just the cable routing problem you might get into. When plugging in that 24 Pin cable, try to be gentle. If your connector is on the right side, the case may wobble alot here and you tend to break something.
One Step further. The BIOS. I can not provide any pictures here. Find some here. Just few words.
Raid? How? On click!
Since i’m using the SSDs of my now old computer (Windows 7) and did not want to make a fresh install, i had to disable and enable some things. The first thing was RAID. My SSDs were previously running in Stripe-RAID and so they will in the new computer. Had no problems here. Just enabled RAID and thats it. I have to mention that i previously had also an Intel Raid Controller like this Asus x99 is shipped with. When your vendors differ you may have to prepare before changing systems. The next thing i enabled was Legacy boot priority and set to Non-UEFI System or “Other System”.
Disable secure boot? button? option? where? how?
The first thing i disabled was secure boot. But this mainboard has no “disable secure-boot” function or option. I had to delete my personal key or PK (in Key Managment) or whatever it stands for. Then i got “Secure-Boot: disabled” displayed.
Use USB ports next to Flash-Port
When i booted the disks the first time into Windows (remember, i did not make a new, fresh and clean install. Using my old Windows, which has not the drivers yet to support all USB ports), i had no USB devices available. Even not keyboard or mouse. At this moment i was using USB ports on the back of the mainboard. The Asus comes with 10 ports and i was using those on the right. These seem to be part of another chip and are not being recognized by my current Windows installation. Using ports on the left did help (these are located at the top if the mainboard is installed with I/O shield upwards).
So i was able to boot and login to Windows. Installing and Playing with drivers and software for an hour, then i started to clock things up and i went to bed with a base-system. First attempts to overlock i7-5930K failed.
XMP profiles do not work really on 0504 BIOS
All attempts to use XMP clocks result in a systemhang at either Code 53 or 6d (or bd ?). Using the Asus “Mem-OK!” button was sometimes a good help. It can make a cmos reset become unnecessary.
In the end, i manually set DDRAM Freq to 2800 MHz and the DRAM voltage to 1.35 because 1.2 V seem to be too low.
According the manual of Asus and according to the website of Corsair these modules should be able to run at 2800 MHz at 1.2 V but my modules don’t or the Asus x99 does not know how. However we talk about incredibly new DDR4 technology standard and a new CPU socket 2011-v3.
By the way: CPU-Z Asus branded version is shipped together with the Asus x99 Deluxe.
The following Read / Write numbers on these DDR4 modules are measured with the ASUS PC Diagnostic tool, also shipped with the mainboard.
Write: 101 GB/s, Read: 47 GB/s
Playing with ratio – first shy overclock attempts
My CPU ratio is set to 41 at max at a baseclock of 100 MHz (41*100 = 4,1 GHz) and runs stable. I did a 30 minute stress test and was surprised how great the Kraken x60 performs in my case.
The i7-5930K temperature peaks at 62 ° C with 22 ° C ambient temperature, while the watercooling-fluid hits the 41,6 ° C mark. Considering that the standard fans that come with the Kranken X60 have been replaced by Corsairs purple ones which rotate only at 1440 +- max and that the CPU is overclocked at this moment, it’s a fairly good result.
One negative thing (which in fact isn’t really negative) is that the Asus x99 doesn’t come with a software to monitor temperatures and fan speeds in a way like HW-Monitor does and the tools that come with it are almost useless. All i installed are the drivers, CPU-Z and the Diagnostic tool. I mean, that is not a big of a deal since there are tons of small apps out there which can do the job and you can install ASUS AIsuite3 to get a cool looking tool to monitor the temps and fans but not likeHW-Monitor orOpen Hardware Monitor. There’s no line-wise monitoring that would enable you to see all values at once in one window in the same time. But did i mention that AISuite3 looks cool?
How could you expect something else than this. They managed to get it both on market a good amount of time before Christmas. I’m sure that i will put my money into a new rig soon, since i’m experiencing some issues with my new graphics card and am and was already thinking about a new rig since end 2013. The show must go on. BUT, be careful. We are still waiting for PCIe 4.0 !! Possible that if we now spend our money we will soon face our new board becoming old.
One good thing is that apart from DDR4, the new boards also come with SATAe and M.2 slots. You’re not only buying a new socket and RAM technology. You’re paving the way for next generation of data transfer. You will be equipped for the next few years. And unlike the 2011 version, that was release in the end of 2013, you don’t waste space on the die for graphic cores. Plain performance. Plain Mojo. I do want!
Edit: 02. September 2014
If you take your time to read some articles on the net you will stumble over several issues that might occur with the new DDR4 and the mainboards. In my opinion this is quite normal as it is totally new. I will buy my new rig tomorrow 02. Sept. 2014. Im not scared about the problems that might occur. The hardware list will be added tomorrow when i have a big smile in my face.