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Asus x99 BIOS update – 0904 released with updated microcode!

Asus just released the next BIOS version 0904! I’m currently at work right now and can’t do anything but i will definetly get into this soon. One thing you might want to point out is the updated microcode. Can’t wait, can’t wait…

If you didn’t read previous posts, get the hardware list here.

 

Screen of  Asus Support Website

Asus x99 BIOS Update
Screenshot: Asus x99 BIOS Update

 

 

Can’t wait to download, test, love, hate and condemn this 🙂 If you already could gather some experience, let me know in the comments! I can’t wait to see benchmark results after this update.

 

Time has come – Asus x99 BIOS Update

 

Intel Storage Repair after BIOS Update/FLash
Intel Storage Repair after BIOS Update/FLash
Update 27. September 2014 ,07:32 CEST:

Here we are, the new BIOS installed makes Intel Storage want to repair my raid1 on two Seagate Disks. However, that only means that the testing starts a bit later in the day.The reason for the obviously desynced disks remains unknown. Possible that after loading the new BIOS and first boot attempt one of the disks got touched by the system in non-raid mode.

 

Asus x99 Deluxe new  BIOS 0904
Asus x99 Deluxe new BIOS 0904

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Update 27/28. September 2014, 1:15 CEST:

Phew, this was a very unpleasent day. The new BIOS is running fine but i didn’t get a lot more out of it than before. As i mentiond already in another post i could achieve 4.5 GHz with the i7-5930K at BIOS version 0801, but its almost impossible to run it stable and cool at the same time. At least when it comes to prime95. If i don’t care about prime95 i could easily run the CPU at 4.6 GHz. However, currently i’m at

(If you didn’t read previous posts, get the hardware list here.)

Baseclock: 126.5 MHz

CPU clock: 4.427 GHz (Ratio 35), Vcore 1.31, Sys Agent V 1.2, CPU Input V 1.92, Cache V 1.2

Memory: 3034 MHz, DRAM V 1.35

NB:  3416 MHz

 

And even at these speeds i’m getting 0x00000101 or 0x00000124 bluescreens when running prime95 tests but it takes longer to make it happen and the temperatures are not peaking at 90 °C instantly, like they would at 4.5 GHz and 1.38 Vcore. It doesn’t feel anymore like the Vcore is the issue. I think i have to pay more attention to the other voltages. I already started to change some values and even the cache frequency. I also disabled some voltage features, which may drop voltages down when you actually are increasing them.

The most stable combination still is 4.375 GHz, 1.27/1.28 Vcore at 125 MHz Baseclock.

Today i also started to use Asus AISuite to get my first experience with it.

For now thats pretty much it. I will add some more comments and pictures tomorrow/later. I will upload some screens of the BIOS settings. Now i will play a game and chillout.

 

 

bahuett

 

at current settings (see above) during prime95 test
at current settings (see above) during prime95 test

 

In HW Monitor the VCORE equals the CPU Input Voltage. When i say Vcore in my post i refer to CPU core voltage or Vcore and since i installed Intel Management software HW Monitor shows less information and the power consumption is totally wrong.

SiSoftware Sandra Lite i7-5930K benchmark

Overclock with no bluescreen is no serious overclock

Now, 2 weeks after purchasing this new RIG i went a step forward and decided to consult SiSoftware Sandra Lite to get some more details and i7-5930K benchmark. After playing with it in the first 1-2 hours i got the 5th bluescreen during the overclocking evolution period, which may hopefully end today. I received my 5th bluescreen during SiSoftware Sandra tests/Benchmarks. You may have a look at the Hardware / Computer section for upcoming posts and updates.

 

Quick Overview of the System (or have a quick look at previous posts):

  • Asus X99 Deluxe (white/black) Motherboard
  • Intel i7-5930K  at 3.5 GHz (will use MX-4 paste)
  • Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4, 16 GB, 2800MHz  4-Modules-Memory-Kit
  • Corsair RM1000 Power Supply
  • Kraken X60 Watercooling
  • 4x Corsair 140mm Fans (purple/violet)
  • Corsair Obsidian 450D Case

 

History settings

History settings (i will skip experiments that weren’t tested in longterm view, for example playing with Vcore for the CPU or when i switched back to basic settings when trying to figure things out/ bluescreens) from oldest -> to newest Setting(s):

 

CPU i7-5930K (including Turbo)in GHz: Corsair LPX DDR4 RAM in MHz: Asus x99 Deluxe Baseclock in MHz:
3,7 @ base values, unknown voltage (release BIOS 0505) 2166 @ base values, unknown voltage (release BIOS 0505) 100 @ base (BIOS 0505)
4,1 @ 1,23 V (release BIOS to BIOS 0801) 2800 @ 1.35 V (release BIOS + BIOS 0701, XMP Profiles values didn’t work) 100 (BIOS 0505 – 0701)
4,2 @ 1,25 V (BIOS 0701 + BIOS 0801) 2800 @ 1.2 V (BIOS 0701 + 0801, XMP values started to work with 0801, 0701 was still unstable) 127,5 (BIOS 0801)
4,25 @ 1,25 V (BIOS 0801) – current 3000 @ 1.35 V (BIOS 0801) – current 125 (BIOS 0801) – current
4,375 @ 1,265 V (BIOS 0801) 3000 @ 1.35 V (BIOS 0801) 125 (BIOS 0801)
4,425 + 4,5 @ 1,276 V (BIOS 0904) 3088 @ 1.35 V 128,7 (BIOS 0904)

These current settings values (antepenultimate row) are valid until 26. September 2014 – for further information please read this post (most recent at this moment) or  this one. The penultimate row in the table are values tested after publishing this post. Final or most recent settings you can find in the most recent link above. Some values were tested on different BIOS versions, some were stable some were not. The table doesn’t show all these combinations. In all cases you can say, that the newer setting also did run at BIOS version 1 behind. For example 4.5 GHz was also tested on 0801.

 

The i7-5930K benchmark

Update 28. September 2014: Unfortunately i didn't write down the PW for SiSoftware Ranker. The links now point to the new account.

With a baseclock slightly decreased from 127.5 to 125 MHz and RAM voltage, now again, at 1.35 V – but this time with 3000 MHz clockspeed – i hope to get closer to a smooth running System. Check it out directly: SiSoftware Sandra Ranking Page of tatoismus.net >>

This one has a better overview: Another Ranking Page of SiSoftware

After these little changes were made, all tests did pass with no further problems. The screenshots show the rank from 15. Sept. to 16. Sept 2014. Ranked #123. (Just 8 hours later im ranked #326 🙂 they’re all cheating)

 

i7-5930K benchmark SiSoftware Ranker
i7-5930K benchmark SiSoftware Ranker

 

i7-5930K benchmark SiSoftware Ranker
i7-5930K benchmark SiSoftware Ranker

 

Cooling the i7-5930K

Additionally i installed a 120mm fan in the rear of the case just to get the warm air a little bit faster out. When i was facing 90 °C and more in the past at full load with the 127.5 baseclock setup, i now still reach 90 °C and more but it takes a tiny bit longer to get there 😉

Just to make sure: temperature was never the issue, i was always monitoring temps when i did any sort/kind of benchmarks. During benchmarks the CPU cores sure get to their limits but never on a timeperiod long enough cause any heatdamage or impact results or cause bluescreens. Well, i talk about SiSoftware Sandra. — Armed with prime95, things become different.

 

Sorry Sandra

Few words about Sandra SiSoftware. I hate it. Or lets say it was frustrating me in the beginning. Its okay for a wide range of tests, but i will never use it again i think, untill my computer produces another bluescreen.

 

Uploading the i7-5930K benchmark with a certain user name to SiSoftware Ranker
Uploading the i7-5930K benchmark with a certain user name to SiSoftware Ranker

 

I can haz user account?

You have to run it as admin. I mean you have to login as admin. “Run as Admin” isn’t enough. And then you can/are able connect to “Local Computer”. Don’t ask how you can upload results to their Ranking-Website using a specific username. I managed it but it hurts explaining it. In the end it is simple but i expect things do work different. You don’t register or create an account in a way you would expect. You simple put a name and email address and password in the fields and fires return key until a picked account name is being accepted. Not talking about the bad named and bad placed module “Top Results”. Who expects that you enter your account information in here? And why locate it in Benchmarks? And you should really not use their FAQ or you will find yourself smashing your head on the desk.

 

ram3000

 

Recognize my RAM correctly pls

By the way: SiSoftware Sandra doesn’t know that my RAM is running at 3000 MHz. It always says for whatever reason “2133 MHz”. You have to look at DRAM Frequency and multiply it by 2 “DDR = Double Data Rate”. Seems that Sandra is only reading some vendor model strings and thats it.

 

bahuett

Corsair DDR4, Asus X99 Deluxe, Intel i7-5930K and Kraken X60

i7-5930k, Obsidian 450D, Asus x99 Deluxe, RM1000, Kraken X60, Vengeance LPX DDR4
i7-5930k, Obsidian 450D, Asus x99 Deluxe, RM1000, Kraken X60, Vengeance LPX DDR4

 

LGA2011-v3, DDR4 and x99 Chipset

Today it happened, i went to my main source for parts to get me my new system. You may wonder but it was not my intention to buy only Corsair stuff. It just happened. The next generation RAM DDR4 and one of the newest Intel Haswell-E CPU i7-5930K LGA2011-v3 on an Asus x99 motherboard. It will blow me away. In the end of the post i will make first steps towards overclocking. For the next few weeks i will continue doing so and write new posts here and there.

Update: Another challenge for Corsairs DDR4, i7-5930K and Kraken x60 – new BIOS for Asus x99 Deluxe
Update: SiSoftware Sandra Lite and i7-5930K benchmark
Update: Asus x99 BIOS update – 0904 released with updated microcode!
Update: Asus x99 Deluxe, i7-5930K overclock – don’t use prime95 on Haswell-E and 2011-v3
Update: Asus x99 Deluxe standby mode not working properly
Update: Asus Deluxe BIOS 1004 x99 – Problems solved?
Update: Asus x99 Deluxe on its way to the manufacturer
Update: Asus x99 Deluxe BIOS Ver. 1305

 

 

Here is the shopping list

 

  • Asus X99 Deluxe (white/black) Motherboard
  • Intel i7-5930K  at 3.5 GHz (will use MX-4 paste) LGA2011-v3
  • Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4, 16 GB, 2800MHz  4-Modules-Memory-Kit
  • Corsair RM1000 Power Supply
  • Kraken X60 Watercooling
  • 4x Corsair 140mm Fans (purple/violet)
  • Corsair Obsidian 450D Case

 

Well i must admit, that i picked the mainboard they had available. I couldn’t wait.

 

Components of my old system which will be taken over

  • 2x OCZ Vertex 2 SSD 60 GB, Sata 2, 300 Gb/s in RAID- 0
  • 1x Optical Disk DVD DL Burner with no Vendor Label
  • 2x Seagate Surveillance 3 TB, Sata 3, 600 Gb/s RAID-1
  • 1x EVGA GTX 770 4GB

 

 

  • OCZ Vertex 2 300 Gb/s
    OCZ Vertex 2, Sata 2, 300 Gb/s

 

 

Assembling this baby

Assembling the components was – come on, it’s a ritual – awesome. I sat in the middle of my living room surrounded by all the blinky, shiny, super cool parts and started to make my way through the components.

I never have used water-cooling. I’m an old guy 😉 and today this will be the premiere of water-cooling – so excited. This first thing i came across was the fact, that the Asus x99 Deluxe (obviously any x99 / 2011-v3 Board) has an already installed backplate for cooling systems. It took a quite amount of time to realize that i do NOT have to use the by Kraken x60 equipped backplate to mount that water-cooler on that CPU. So you just assamble the cooler with the retention ring and spit some thermal paste on the i7-5930K to finally tighten it down. This was quite easy but it took some time to get it. The manual doesn’t tell you alot by words but by graphics. The radiator itself has been placed into the top of the case (while the mainboard was already installed).

Installing PSU, HDD/SSD/Optical did not require special handling. It’s just the cable routing problem you might get into. When plugging in that 24 Pin cable, try to be gentle. If your connector is on the right side, the case may wobble alot here and you tend to break something.

 

 

Teh Chipset

x99-chipset-block-diagram

 

Teh BIOS,

One Step further. The BIOS. I can not provide any pictures here. Find some here.  Just few words.

Asus x99 BIOS - Startscreen
Asus x99 BIOS – Startscreen

Raid? How? On click!

Since i’m using the SSDs of my now old computer (Windows 7) and did not want to make a fresh install, i had to disable and enable some things. The first thing was RAID. My SSDs were previously running in Stripe-RAID and so they will in the new computer. Had no problems here.  Just enabled RAID and thats it. I have to mention that i previously had also an Intel Raid Controller like this Asus x99 is shipped with. When your vendors differ you may have to prepare before changing systems. The next thing i enabled was Legacy boot priority and set to Non-UEFI System or “Other System”.

Disable secure boot? button? option? where? how?

The first thing i disabled was secure boot. But this mainboard has no “disable secure-boot” function or option. I had to delete my personal key or PK (in Key Managment) or whatever it stands for. Then i got “Secure-Boot: disabled” displayed.

Use USB ports next to Flash-Port

When i booted the disks the first time into Windows (remember, i did not make a new, fresh and clean install. Using my old Windows, which has not the drivers yet to support all USB ports), i had no USB devices available. Even not keyboard or mouse. At this moment i was using USB ports on the back of the mainboard. The Asus comes with 10 ports and i was using those on the right. These seem to be part of another chip and are not being recognized by my current Windows installation. Using ports on the left did help (these are located at the top if the mainboard is installed with I/O shield upwards).

So i was able to boot and login to Windows. Installing and Playing with drivers and software for an hour, then i started to clock things up and i went to bed with a base-system. First attempts to overlock i7-5930K failed.

XMP profiles do not work really on 0504 BIOS

All attempts to use XMP clocks result in a systemhang at either Code 53 or 6d (or bd ?). Using the Asus “Mem-OK!” button was sometimes a good help. It can make a cmos reset become unnecessary.

In the end, i manually set DDRAM Freq to 2800 MHz and the DRAM voltage to 1.35 because 1.2 V seem to be too low.

 

Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 at 2133 MHz base speed
CPU-Z: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 at 2133 MHz base speed (1086.4 MHz x2)

 

Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 at 2800 MHz
CPU-Z: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 at 2800 MHz (1402.2 MHz x2)

 

 

According the manual of Asus and according to the website of Corsair these modules should be able to run at 2800 MHz at 1.2 V but my modules don’t or the Asus x99 does not know how. However we talk about incredibly new DDR4 technology standard and a new CPU socket 2011-v3.

By the way: CPU-Z Asus branded version is shipped together with the Asus x99 Deluxe.

The following Read / Write numbers on these DDR4 modules are measured with the ASUS PC Diagnostic tool, also shipped with the mainboard.

Write: 101 GB/s, Read: 47 GB/s

 

 

Readspeed of Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 at 2800 MHz
Readspeed of Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 at 2800 MHz
Writespeed of Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 at 2800 MHz
Writespeed of Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 at 2800 MHz

 

Playing with ratio – first shy overclock attempts

My CPU ratio is set to 41 at max at a baseclock of 100 MHz (41*100 = 4,1 GHz) and runs stable. I did a 30 minute stress test and was surprised how great the Kraken x60 performs in my case.

 

CPU-Z CPU Tab with i7-5930K at 4.1 GHz
CPU-Z: CPU Tab with i7-5930K at 4.1 GHz

 

The i7-5930K temperature peaks at 62 ° C with 22 ° C  ambient temperature, while the watercooling-fluid hits the 41,6 ° C mark. Considering that the standard fans that come with the Kranken X60 have been replaced by Corsairs purple ones which rotate only at 1440 +- max and that the CPU is overclocked at this moment, it’s a fairly good result.

 

cpu-z i7-5930K at 4.1 GHz
NZXT Kraken x60 and CPU i7-5930K (LGA 2011-v3) at 4.1 GHz

 A month later i wrote a post about Kraken Controls.

 

 

Monitoring and Asus AISuite 3

One negative thing (which in fact isn’t really negative) is that the Asus x99 doesn’t come with a software to monitor temperatures and fan speeds in a way like HW-Monitor does and the tools that come with it are almost useless. All i installed are the drivers, CPU-Z and the Diagnostic tool. I mean, that is not a big of a deal since there are tons of small apps out there which can do the job and you can install ASUS AIsuite3 to get a cool looking tool to monitor the temps and fans but not like HW-Monitor or Open Hardware Monitor. There’s no line-wise monitoring that would enable you to see all values at once in one window in the same time. But did i mention that AISuite3 looks cool?

 

Screenshot: ASUS AISuite 3 that comes with Asus x99 Deluxe
Screenshot: ASUS AISuite 3 that comes with Asus x99 Deluxe

 

 

Update: Another challenge for Corsairs DDR4, i7-5930K and Kraken x60 – new BIOS for Asus x99 Deluxe
Update: SiSoftware Sandra Lite and i7-5930K benchmark
Update: Asus x99 BIOS update – 0904 released with updated microcode!
Update: Asus x99 Deluxe, i7-5930K overclock – don’t use prime95 on Haswell-E and 2011-v3
Update: Asus x99 Deluxe standby mode not working properly
Update: Asus Deluxe BIOS 1004 x99 – Problems solved?
Update: Asus x99 Deluxe on its way to the manufacturer
Update: Asus x99 Deluxe BIOS Ver. 1305